Documents associated with: materials, canvas size
Record 1 of 5
System Number: 09187
Date: 18 October 
Recipient: George Aloysius Lucas
Repository: Baltimore Museum of Art, MD
Call Number: 06 folder, W-Lucas file
Document Type: ALS
Maison de la Croix
Chez Mons. Louis Daguerre
Deparment [sic] des Basses Pyrenees
Dear Lucas -
I am going to throw this at random into your street, hoping it may hit your number, for I fear I have forgotten it - I was only a day in Paris on my way here, or should have found you out - but I intend to spend a week there on my way back to London and then I hope we shall see a great deal of you - I wrote to you long ago from London, telling you much that had happened to me, and asking if I should take rooms for your intended visit to the exhibition - but I never got a word in reply - so I supposed you out of town - Now I want the assistance of your good taste - I am painting a couple of pictures and wish on my arrival in Paris to have frames ready for them - Will you have the great kindness to order them for me from your frame [p. 2] -maker? - The first is for a sea piece of deep tone, and I should like it to be something like the one I had for the painting I brought from Brittany last year (which you remember) richly carved, and bold - deep and rather broad; massive but not cumbersome, and well finished.
Not dear though, mon cher, if possible.
The canvass [sic] is one of the regular French dimension, "toile de soixante" - The second is a "toile de vingt" for which I want a very pretty frame, highly finished, brilliant and rich - deep also, and rather broad. This is an order and will hang in a drawing room, so that the finish must not be neglected -
Will you, like a jolly good fellow, order these two for me at once, and have them done as satisfactorily as are your own charming frames in your collection, and then drop me a line to let me know what will be the price - do this and I shall be infinitely obliged to you -
Do write at once or I shall suppose you absent and not know what to do -
Maison de la Croix Chez Mons. Louis Daguerre
Departement des Basses Pyrenées
|'toile d 20 }||canaux||130|
|}||" [poles?] brun||150|
20 = 19 centimetres = 150.0 [2 or 3 figures illegible]
60 = 22 = 190 - on 200 fs'
[p. 4, Design for a picture frame]
'Jimmy Whistler, Oct 18th 1862 ansd October 22nd do'Monsieur
Monsieur George Lucas
Rue de l'Arc de Triomphe, 40. ou 41. ou 42.
[postmark:] ST JEAN DE LUZ / 18 / OCT / 62
[postmark on verso:] [ESTERNES?] / 20 / OCT / 62
'31/4 x 5/4'
1. Oct. 18th 
Lucas recorded in his diary for 20 October 1862: 'Recd letter from Jimmy Whistler from Pyrenees asking me to order 2 frames.' (Randall, Lillian, ed., George A. Lucas: An American Art Agent in Paris, 1857-1909, Princeton, 1979, vol. 2, p. 143). The postmark is dated 18 October 1862. However, according to the almanac, JW's date of 'Thursday' applies to 16, and not 18 October 1862.
Published in Mahey, John A., 'The Letters of James McNeill Whistler to George A. Lucas,' Art Bulletin, XLIX, September 1967, pp. 247-57, no. II, at p. 249.
International Exhibition, South Kensington Museum, opened on 1 May and closed on 1 November 1862 (see 'The International Exhibition', The Times, 3 November 1862, p. 7).
Word inserted above line.
9. toile de soixante
Fr., a canvas stretcher for a marine painting measuring 130 x 81 cm. (see Sea Piece (YMSM 43). Lucas ordered the frames at Dutocq's on 21 October and went with JW to see them on 2 December 1862 (Lucas diary, Randall, Lillian, ed., George A. Lucas: An American Art Agent in Paris, 1857-1909, Princeton, 1979, vol. 2, pp. 143, 145).
11. toile de vingt
Fr., A canvas stretcher measuring either 73 x 60 cm (for landscape paintings) or 73 x 50 cm (for marine paintings).
Whistler planned to visit the Museo del Prado in Madrid to see the works of Diego Rodriguez de Silva y Velázquez (1599-1660), painter [more]. However, he only made it as far as the small Spanish border town of Fuenterrabia.
17. at once
18. toile ... 200 fs
These notes were added in pencil, probably by Lucas.
20. Jimmy ... 22nd do
Written in another hand, probably that of Lucas.
Lucas's address was no. 41.
A second postmark is illegible, being half off the envelope flap.
23. 31/4 x 5/4
This note was written in Lucas's hand, but on what subject is not clear.