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System Number: 05721
Date: 12 April 1892
Author: David Croal Thomson[1]
Place: London
Recipient: JW
Place: [Paris]
Repository: Glasgow University Library
Call Number: MS Whistler T66
Document Type: ALS

[royal coat of arms]

116 & 117, NEW BOND STREET, W.


12 April 1892

Dear Sir,

Many thanks for your kind remarks.

Album[2]. We have now every authorisation except Potters[3]. Leathart[4] called here on Saturday & after much hesitation & persuasion he telegraphs consent this morning. The picture is now photographed & will be returned to-day. Potter wrote that he would think about the permission & we believe he [p. 2] will yet give it to us. He seems to have to consult with various people on every thing. We shall have proofs of all the negatives immediately after Easter. We shall be closed from Thursday this week until Tuesday next week as usual so if you have any thing you require an answer for before the 20th please write by return. We all leave London except one clerk.

Pictures. We have seen Mr Flower[5] this morning as you so much want his picture [p. 3] but he refuses again & absolutely. He says he will not (very emphatic) lend his pictures any more at present & not to [own? the set?]. Huth[6] has also been disappointingly cross about his picture & declines to pay the small charge for cleaning & varnishing. Potter no doubt you have yourself written to in the note we have sent on at once & only Mrs Leyland[7] & Chapman[8] remain for Paris. Chapmans are still here & we wrote to him[.] Mrs Leylands is delivered & it would be much more certain to get it if you would write yourself. In fact this is the error [p. 4] we have made this morning by going to Cyril Flower for he apparently cannot understand why we (Goupil & Co) should ask the favour - & perhaps he thinks we have not all the authority we say we have from you -

This being so for Paris it becomes to owners even more strange when we ask for Munich[9] where we have no power or interest. We think therefore you would meet with consents far more readily if you would write short notes to the various people & then get the official agent for Munich to collect them at Munichs expense & not at yours for of course the carriage there will be no small item & if you ask it they (p. 5)[10] will pay & save you a large sum. In asking for the pictures it would be as well not to let people know that they are required for 6 months, for that we find an enormous difficulty. It is also better to say when they are wanted - now or a month hence.

Of those you want for Munich we still have Potters, Chapman, Ionides[11], Jameson[12][,] Harrison[13] & Orchars[14], which we shall keep in the mean time.

Catalogues. We had 50 catalogues on Saturday evening & all were sold that same evening. For the reasons given [p. 6] yesterday we do not order more for the moment. If you intend, comme on dit[15], to print it at the end of the 'Gentle Art' it is better to let it be scarce. It is for you to decide

Carlyle[16]. Mr Paton[17] has been here & thinks it very likely the Carlyle will be lent to Munich. He says they send a lot of pictures there every year & he says we had better, to facilitate matters, send the picture to Glasgow & this has been done. This will not prevent the Bavarian Government getting it & Mr Paton the Curator of the Corporation Galleries Glasgow will see the Committee & discuss it. As [p. 7] our permission lasted only until the 16th (Saturday) he advised us very strongly to return it first

Mr Paton tells us you have an excellent reproduction in Photogravure of the Carlyle[.] Could we see it?

Lady Meux[18] is out of town & the servants say they do not know where she has gone. Will you please write to her direct.

We shall send the 'Fur Jacket[19]' & Gallimard['s] 'Venice'[20] to Paris tomorrow.

Yours very truly

[stamped:] BOUSSOD VALADON & CO.

D. C. Thomson


J McN. Whistler Eq

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1.  David Croal Thomson
David Croal Thomson (1855-1930), art dealer [more]. This is a reply to #08208 and #05721, and a follow-up to #05719.

2.  Album
Nocturnes, Marines and Chevalet Pieces, Boussod, Valadon & Cie, Goupil Gallery, London, 1892, having just closed, a selection of the paintings had been photographed for inclusion in an album; Thomson was seeking permission from the owners to reproduce them.

3.  Potters
John Charles Potter (1854-1920), wallpaper manufacturer and collector [more].

4.  Leathart
James Leathart (1820-1895), collector [more].

5.  Mr Flower
Cyril Flower (1843-1907), barrister, Liberal MP, 1st Baron Battersea [more].

6.  Huth
Louis Huth (1821-1905), collector [more].

7.  Mrs Leyland
Frances Leyland (1836-1910), née Dawson [more].

8.  Chapman
Alfred Chapman (1839-1917), engineer and collector [more].

9.  Munich
JW wished to borrow pictures for both the 2nd Exhibition, Société Nationale des Beaux-Arts, Paris, 1892 and the 6th Internationale Kunst-Austellung, Munich, 1892.

10.  (p. 5)
This sheet alone is numbered at the top left and has the date '12/4/92' written diagonally across the top right corner.

11.  Ionides
Alexander ('Aleco') Ionides (1840-1898), businessman [more].

12.  Jameson
Frederick Jameson (1839-1916), architect and musician [more].

13.  Harrison
Robert Hichens Camden Harrison (1837?-1924), collector [more].

14.  Orchars
James Guthrie Orchar (1825-1888), engineer and collector [more].

15.  comme on dit
Fr., as is said.

16.  Carlyle
Arrangement in Grey and Black, No. 2: Portrait of Thomas Carlyle (YMSM 137).

17.  Mr Paton
James W. Paton (1843-1921), Curator of the Glasgow Industrial Museum [more].

18.  Lady Meux
Lady Valerie Susan ('Susie') Meux (1847-1910), née Langdon, collector and patroness [more].

19.  Fur Jacket
Arrangement in Black and Brown: The Fur Jacket (YMSM 181).

20.  Gallimard['s] 'Venice'
Sebastien-Paul Gallimard (1850-1929), collector, publisher and patron of the arts [more]; owner of Nocturne: Blue and Gold - St Mark's, Venice (YMSM 213).